An Expert Guide to Planning an In-Ground Pool in Rochester, NY.

Written By Dominic Chapman

A Comprehensive Resource for Designing and Installing an In-Ground Pool (2023)

Have you and your family been talking and planning and dreaming about those wonderful sunny days and how you’d like to spend more time lounging by your very own in-ground pool? Welcome to the club! Investing in a backyard oasis not only increases your property value but also enhances your outdoor living space and encourages quality family time. And let’s be honest, that’s what it’s really about- making memories with the ones you love most.

This Guide will walk you through the process and explain why a design-build approach to your pool project is the way to go. As far as we know, there is no comprehensive guide to building a pool in the Greater Rochester area. We looked! We found nothing there, so we created this guide with you and your family in mind. Full disclosure: we certainly are not the only pool design and build company in the area, but we have been here, creating dream-worthy backyard spaces, for over 20 years, and we’d like to offer you our insights. At the very least, consider us as a trusted, ‘second opinion’, as many of your friends and neighbors have for over two decades. Welcome to our Guide. Ask us your questions—even the hard ones. It would be our high privilege to help you and your family through this process. 

1. Planning and Timelines

How long does the pool installation process take?

It can take up to 6 to 9 months to fully complete a pool install. Factors such as scheduling, pool type, the complexity of the project, and supply can all impact the project timeline.

Pool Timeline Overview:

1. Starting with the design and planning phase, you'll work closely with a designer to transform your vision into reality. This crucial stage involves exploring different ideas and possibilities for your project, including the layout, pool shape, materials, colors, and aesthetic preferences. It's important to consider the functionality, practicality, budget, space constraints, and local regulations, ensuring that the final result aligns perfectly with your vision through collaboration with the designer.

2. In the scheduling phase you'll move forward with setting up a specific timeline for the installation process. This stage involves coordinating with the pool installation team to determine a suitable date and time for the actual installation to take place. Additionally, you will focus on finalizing smaller details related to your pool surround, such as confirming the chosen materials, colors, and any additional features or amenities. The scheduling phase ensures that all necessary preparations are made and that you are well-prepared for the upcoming installation of your pool surround.

3. During the excavation phase of an in-ground pool installation, the pool company begins the exciting process of breaking ground to create your new pool. This significant milestone marks the official start of construction. It's important to note that this phase can be a bit messy and noisy, as heavy machinery is used to excavate the area where the pool will be located. The specific details of the excavation phase can vary depending on the type of pool you chose, such as the shape, size, and depth. Despite the temporary disruption, this phase represents the beginning of transforming your vision into a tangible reality.

4. During the installation phase, the unique characteristics of the pool type you selected come into play, resulting in varying processes and timelines. For instance, if you opted for a gunite pool, the installation process is typically more involved and time-consuming. In this case, the construction crew would begin by laying a framework of rebar to provide structural reinforcement. Next, they would proceed to spray a mixture of concrete and sand, known as gunite, which is meticulously shaped and smoothed to form the pool shell. Other pool types may involve different steps, such as assembling pre-formed panels or installing a vinyl liner. The installation phase showcases the specialized techniques and materials used to bring your chosen pool type to life, ensuring that every detail is carefully executed to create the ideal swimming environment.

5. The final step of an in-ground pool installation is the pool surround, which plays a crucial role in completing your pool area. This phase can begin concurrently with the pool installation, especially if you are incorporating additional features such as outdoor structures like a pool house or cabana. However, it is during this stage that the focus shifts to adding landscaping and hardscaping elements to enhance the overall aesthetics and functionality of the pool area. Landscaping elements such as plants, trees, shrubs, and flowers are strategically placed to create a visually appealing and inviting atmosphere. Hardscaping features like pathways, patio areas, seating, and decking are installed to provide functional spaces for relaxation, entertaining, and easy access to the pool. The pool surround phase is where the pool area truly comes together, combining the natural beauty of landscaping with the practicality of hardscaping to create a complete and enjoyable outdoor oasis.

Pro tip: If you’re building a new home the pool should be part of the architectural drawings so the space can be designed and not an afterthought.

“For fiberglass pools, we strive for a dig-to-swim time of 30 days from commencement. ”
— Dar Dehmler, Founder, Oasis Pool & Spa
 
“Gunite swimming pool projects typically take 8-12 weeks depending on the size of the project. The fastest gunite pool installation we have ever done is 30 days. ”
— Bucky Frusco, President, Design Pool & Spa
 

Looking for a helpful planning tool to get all of your details together? Download our free pool planning worksheet below:

Pro Tip: Write down everything you want out of your dream pool. Also write down any questions! A design consultant will review with you to help finalize a plan that fits your budget and style. This is a great way to start the process!

 

2. Types of In-Ground Pools:

One of the first big decisions you and your family will face is what “type” pool you want to choose. The best pool for you will depend on factors such as your budget, your current space, how long you’ll be in the home and your expectations for the completed project.

We will be looking at the three major contenders for in-ground pool types, and they are concrete (also known as ‘gunite’), vinyl liner, and fiberglass. Some might believe that ‘a pool, is a pool, is a pool’, but we all know that’s not true. Each has its advantages—and disadvantages. As the homeowner investing resources into this pool project, you deserve to know what those all are. And most of all, you need to know! So, let’s look at the world of in-ground pools, so you can better understand what is best for you and your family.

Gunite Pool

Gunite Pools:

These pools offer the ultimate in customization, with endless options for shape, size, and finish. They're durable and long-lasting but come with higher initial costs and maintenance requirements. If your pool has a very unique, less-than-traditional shape or design, you are likely to require a concrete pool, since it can give you an infinite number of shapes and sizes, curves, and angles. Plus, for some people, there is a perceived higher value of a concrete pool in the resale market.

Of the three main types of pools, gunite pools tend to be a little more expensive than the other two.

Vinyl Liner Pool

Vinyl Liner Pools

A more budget-friendly choice, vinyl liner pools have a smooth surface that reduces algae growth. However, liners need to be replaced every 5-10 years. JLC is very experienced with vinyl liner pools and can make them blend in seamlessly in any backyard landscape design you choose. Literally, there are no limitations, design-wise, with these pools in our designs.

Fiberglass Pool

Fiberglass Pools

Quick to install and low maintenance, fiberglass pools are a popular choice. Fiberglass  pools have a plethora of built in features so you get more bang for your buck. With over 100 models to choose from, in multiple sizes, from our various vendors, there's usually a good model to fit almost everyone's taste.

The maintenance of fiberglass pools is easy as it gets with no resurfacing needed and minimal chemical balancing required due to the non-porous surface.

Fiberglass pools have another consideration, and that is accessibility during installation. Typically, they come on a flatbed truck, fully-formed and ready to be installed that same day. However, they often will need to be moved from the front curb of your home, over the top of your home, by means of a crane.

“There is a misconception that fiberglass pools don't hold up as well in our climate but are actually the most flexible and durable option on the market. Finishes and raw material quality are always being scrutinized by manufacturers and improved upon.”

-Dar Dehmler, Founder/Owner, Oasis Pool & Spa

 

3. Design Factors To Consider

• Pool Size and Shape: Work with your available space and make sure your pool design compliments your landscape. Think about future additions or expansions. And, of course, it should also complement your home!

• Pool Depth: What activities will your pool be used for? Plan your pool depth to ensure safety and fun for everyone.

• Features and Accessories: Add a touch of luxury with lights, waterfalls, or other special features.

• Landscaping and Hardscaping: Choose plants and materials that work well with your pool design. Plan walkways, decks, and patios, and consider shade structures and outdoor furniture. Fencing around the pool will be required for safety purposes, although many homes already have adequate perimeter fencing that satisfies this mandate. Again, your JLC design team can advise you here.

4. Pool Surround Ideas

A “pool surround” refers to everything that goes around the pool. This includes features like coping, patio areas, planting, fencing, etc. A classic choice is going with a paver patio pool surround. This is great thanks to its durability, ease of use, and varied looks. Pavers, concrete, and tiles are the most common pool coping options. There are many different stone materials used to make pavers, such as sandstone, travertine, and marble, and porcelain is another popular paver material. This gives you a world of color options to create the look you’ve always dreamed of.

How much does a pool surround typically cost?

• A simple pool surround starts at around $45,000 - $60,000. This could include a small concrete patio, fence, grading, and small plants.

• Mid-level pool surrounds cost around $80,000 to $120,000. This can include a paver patio, fencing, lighting, fencing,

• High range $125000 to $300,000 - large patios, water features, walls, steps, water features, outdoor kitchens, structures, pool houses, pergolas, grottos

 

Pool Surround Hardscape:

  • Outdoor Kitchen

  • Landscape Lighting

  • Sound System

  • Pavilion or Pergola

  • Retaining Wall

  • Walkways and Steps

  • Fire Features

  • Pool House

Pool Surround Landscaping:

  1. Flowering Shrubs

  2. Ornamental Grasses

  3. Perennial Borders

  4. Variation in mulch - stone mulch/hardwood mulch

  5. Evergreen Shrubs

 

Need help organizing your pool project? Use our free pool planning worksheet below:

 

5. Required Permits and Building Codes

The not-so-fun part of installing a pool can be dealing with town codes and permits. It’s important that you make sure your pool follows all local regulations, including proper setbacks and safety measures. Obtain necessary permits from local authorities and coordinate inspections throughout your project. This process can take up to 2-3 weeks. Towns like Pittsford are becoming more strict, requiring engineering plans that show proper grading and drainage. This is the town’s way of ensuring water is draining away from your pool and not into your neighbor’s yard. This is a very important step in the pool installation process.

What do you need for your zip code?:

Town of Pittsford, NY- https://ecode360.com/5126952

Town of Fairport, NY - https://ecode360.com/10645780

Village of Victor, NY - https://ecode360.com/9479630

Town of Mendon, NY - https://ecode360.com/29608756

Town of Webster, NY - https://www.villageofwebster.com/pools.html

Don’t see your town? Google search for: “ecode360 + your town).”

Pro tip: This is where hiring a design-build company comes in. We’ll handle the permits for you.

6. How Much Do In-Ground Pools Cost?

Getting down to business - it is no secret that getting a new pool is a big investment. But it’s also one of the most exciting and rewarding decisions a homeowner can make.

Pool prices can vary greatly depending on various factors, such as location, size, shape, and additional features. The price ranges below include the pool itself, installation, as well as the necessary systems for it to operate:

• Gunite pools are averaging $100,000 to $150,000

Smaller scale projects can start at around $80K. Adding a spa is around $50K.

• A fiberglass pool can range from $65,000 to $80,000

Gunite pricing has been affected by inflation and the supply chain of resin and polymers which are needed for piping, liners, and fiberglass pool surfaces (2023).

• Vinyl liner pools can cost $40,000 to $80,000

Did you know older pools can be refurbished? You could save tens of thousand of dollars by revamping an existing pool rather than completely replacing it! Contact us to learn more!

 

7. Hiring a Pool Company

When it comes to who will build your pool, you have options. Over the years we’ve worked with dozens of pool companies. Each one has a slightly different process and way of handling an installation. Here’s a short list of companies that you can trust:

Design Pool & Spa - (Gunite Pools): Design Pool & Spa in Fairport, NY are professional In-Ground Pool and Spa experts in upstate New York offering design, building, installation & maintenance.

Oasis Pool & Spa - (Fiberglass and Vinyl Pools): Oasis Pool & Spa in Lima, NY install in-ground pools and spa with either Fiberglass or Vinyl Liner finishes. From concept to creation and beyond, their team strives to bring you the best service in the industry.

North Eastern - (Fiberglass and Vinyl Pools): North Eastern Pool & Spa in East Rochester, NY specializes in vinyl liner inground pool and fiberglass pool installation. They also carry a variety of hot tubs and provide a multitude of services in caring for and maintaining your pool and/or spa.

Pettis Pools - (Fiberglass, Vinyl, and Above Ground Pools): Pettis Pools & Patios is a pool builder specializing in hot tubs, saunas, patio furniture & service in Greece, Rochester & nearby areas.

Precision Pool and Spa - (Gunite Pools): Precision Pool and Spa in Fairport, NY designs and builds custom in-ground swimming pools near Rochester and throughout Upstate New York.

Sunsplash Pools - (Fiberglass):

8. Hiring a Design-Build / Landscape Company

Pro tip: When you’re ready to hire the pool company of your choice you should also contact a design-build company. Our team is here to help guide you through the installation process so that you can rest assured that your investment is handled professionally.

Close your eyes and imagine what your dream backyard looks like. You’ve got the pool of your dreams, but what else? Do you see a firepit? A fully functional outdoor kitchen? Do you hear music? Do you see ambient lighting on your trees? To create these things for your space, you’ll need to loop in a design-build company like Josh Landscape Co. We assist with the pool surround features such as fencing, landscaping, handling town permits, creating a pool patio or walkway, and much more. We even handle all of the permits!

JOSH Landscape is a design-build company, a one-stop shop for your pool project, that handles both design and construction under one roof. Every homeowner and each parcel of property has unique considerations, whether that might be budgetary, structural, or imaginative design. There is no ‘one size fits all’, cookie-cutter approach that serves every family well. As a design-build company, JLC will translate your desires into reality, no matter the type of pool or type of lot. We will never restrict your wishes by only offering the products we build in-house. We proudly work with many pool builders of all types of pools.

Benefits of a Design-Build Company for your Project:

Project Management:

Design Plans: A professional design plan ensures a well-thought-out and cohesive vision, optimizing the use of space, materials, and aesthetics while minimizing potential errors or costly modifications.

Time-Saving: With coordinated scheduling and reduced delays, your pool project will be completed faster, better, and more safely.

Cost-effective: Accurate initial design and cost estimation result in fewer change orders and increases to your contract. Also, design plans from a design-build firm, like Josh Landscape, are a fraction of the cost compared to an architecture firm.

Better communication: A single point of contact means fewer headaches and a smoother experience because we always keep you in the loop.

High-quality results: With experts overseeing every step from beginning to end, your vision becomes a reality without any drop in quality or communication throughout the project.

 

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